Bad Role Models

CandyMcHooter wrote:

numba1bimbx wrote:

It's a bit harsh to blame it on bad role models. Who is buying these teens their clothes? ........ Why don't people just start taking responsibility for themselves and their kids

I live in Australia and the problem here is just as bad!
I was looking through the local Target a little while ago and I happened to walk past the baby section.... and of course, I had to haev a look at all the cute baby clothes. lo
To my HORROR I saw Black leather jackets, black leather skirts and pants in size 0000!!!! That's brand new born babies dressed like whores!!!!!      
Who the heck dresses a BABY in black leather mini skirts and leather jackets?!
At first I was angry at the store. Then I thought about it and I realised... these stores only buy what there is a demand for. Therefore, people must have been asking for this kind of thing in these sizes! And not only a couple of people, but MANY people for them to get it in stock! And these items were on sale for quite a while so they must have been popular!

I'm sorry what is whorish about leather baby clothes? I can't seem to understand it. I wouldn't personally dress my kid in it because I think leather is a bit tacky (unless it's a nice leather handbag or purse).

When I was little I rememebr dressing up in pretty dresses and skirts and t-shirts and shorts. When your young it is alright to wear skirts and pretty dresses but I think the problem is that teens think they can still wear what they wore when they were younger no matter what length it is.

As an 18 year old female whose smart, funny, (not on my own admission) modest and appropriately dressed based on what has been gleaned from this conversation and my own social perception I have to say this.

Yes, there are bad role models - honestly I'm surprised no one has mentioned Amy Winehouse yet as she's always my first thought for bad role models - and yes, there are good role models. However, I feel the need to stick up for teenagers and point out that the majority are good, regular kids who don't wear obscene clothes and do ridiculous things. Such acts are more sensationalist and sell in the media, it's also on the increase but a lot of it comes from parents so you need to be looking more into the middle generation to see where they went wrong.

At the end of the day lots of kids aren't affected by these bad role models and I just felt it needed to be said. The majority of kids are good kids.

zeldababy wrote:

numba1bimbx wrote:

It's a bit harsh to blame it on bad role models. Who is buying these teens their clothes? Most likely their parents, and if they are not buying the clothes they are likely to be giving them the money for it. Why don't people just start taking responsibility for themselves and their kids then maybe they would be more likely to follow good role models and they wouldn't dress in inappropriate manners.

Well, you also run into the problem of what is being sold in stores.  There is a writer on Slate who addressed this when she went back-to-school shopping with her pre-teen last year.  She said it was actually quite difficult to find clothes that fit her daughter (as in not 20 sizes too big) that actually covered her (as in no bare midriff, skirts that came to the knee, etc.).  The daughter was really shocked that she had such a hard time finding decent clothes. 

I myself keep wishing that someone would make a pair of Jeans that are not low-rise.  When there was a regular waist pair of jeans, they used to hit at the very top of my hip bone.  Basically take someone who looks good in low-rise Jeans and imagine that the waist hit about two inches lower.  That's what low-rise looks like on me.  And you'd think that buying the next size or two up would help with that, but it doesn't.  *sigh*   

What about high waisted? If low-rise is as you describe on your person then high-waisted jeans might actually suit you more while flattering your shape.

Also what's wrong with finding a tunic top or long shirt to wear on top of the jeans? or even a short dress?

numba1bimbx wrote:

zeldababy wrote:

numba1bimbx wrote:

It's a bit harsh to blame it on bad role models. Who is buying these teens their clothes? Most likely their parents, and if they are not buying the clothes they are likely to be giving them the money for it. Why don't people just start taking responsibility for themselves and their kids then maybe they would be more likely to follow good role models and they wouldn't dress in inappropriate manners.

Well, you also run into the problem of what is being sold in stores.  There is a writer on Slate who addressed this when she went back-to-school shopping with her pre-teen last year.  She said it was actually quite difficult to find clothes that fit her daughter (as in not 20 sizes too big) that actually covered her (as in no bare midriff, skirts that came to the knee, etc.).  The daughter was really shocked that she had such a hard time finding decent clothes. 

I myself keep wishing that someone would make a pair of Jeans that are not low-rise.  When there was a regular waist pair of jeans, they used to hit at the very top of my hip bone.  Basically take someone who looks good in low-rise Jeans and imagine that the waist hit about two inches lower.  That's what low-rise looks like on me.  And you'd think that buying the next size or two up would help with that, but it doesn't.  *sigh*   

What about high waisted? If low-rise is as you describe on your person then high-waisted jeans might actually suit you more while flattering your shape.

Also what's wrong with finding a tunic top or long shirt to wear on top of the jeans? or even a short dress?

Yes, but trying to find high waisted jeans that I can afford is a big problem, and I get tired of not being able to wear some of my smaller t-shirts to show off my figure.  I have "birthing hips" as we call them, so tunic tops are pretty much out because of the way they are cut.  They end up being either really large on top or too small at the bottom.  So steer me to some poor people high-waist jeans and I will report back.

zeldababy wrote:

numba1bimbx wrote:

zeldababy wrote:

Well, you also run into the problem of what is being sold in stores.  There is a writer on Slate who addressed this when she went back-to-school shopping with her pre-teen last year.  She said it was actually quite difficult to find clothes that fit her daughter (as in not 20 sizes too big) that actually covered her (as in no bare midriff, skirts that came to the knee, etc.).  The daughter was really shocked that she had such a hard time finding decent clothes. 

I myself keep wishing that someone would make a pair of Jeans that are not low-rise.  When there was a regular waist pair of jeans, they used to hit at the very top of my hip bone.  Basically take someone who looks good in low-rise Jeans and imagine that the waist hit about two inches lower.  That's what low-rise looks like on me.  And you'd think that buying the next size or two up would help with that, but it doesn't.  *sigh*   

What about high waisted? If low-rise is as you describe on your person then high-waisted jeans might actually suit you more while flattering your shape.

Also what's wrong with finding a tunic top or long shirt to wear on top of the jeans? or even a short dress?

Yes, but trying to find high waisted jeans that I can afford is a big problem, and I get tired of not being able to wear some of my smaller t-shirts to show off my figure.  I have "birthing hips" as we call them, so tunic tops are pretty much out because of the way they are cut.  They end up being either really large on top or too small at the bottom.  So steer me to some poor people high-waist jeans and I will report back.

I got some gorgeous skinny legged highwaisted jeans from urban outfitters for £10 in sale from £50. The best things to do are to look out for sales really. Or try ebay. You will find some wonderful ones there. At least with the highwaisted you can wear other shirts apart from tunic.

MILEY CYRUS, baddest of the bad, she is deffinetly a BAD role model

IceGem wrote:

Kumari wrote:

Who on earth is  MiLey Cyrus? I've never even heard of her.
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Britney Spears is a really really bad role model!

If I am not mistaken, I think she is the 15 year old girl who is the star of the kids programme Hannah Montana (on kids nikelodeon or Disney channel or something I think) she has just posed for Vanity Fair in nothing but a sheet or something similar. There was a big uproar in the UK press, but this is all I know about her. Also daughter of Billy Rae Cyrus.

So no, not the best role model for doing that at her age. But at her age, what the heck were her parents thinking letting her do it. Star or not!!!

There was barely an uproar in the UK media it was the US media that had a field day. I didn't even hear about it until I came online and someone mentioned it in the game.

Another point is she was wearing clothes apparantly but they were backless. All that was visible was her bare back, not her naked front or body, so the media attack on her is ridiculous.

COme on she doesn't look seductive in it. She's got hardly any make up on and bad hair. Her parents were there at the shoot and she had jeans on (not that oyu can see that) it's not like she's flaunting her entire body, she's covered. There are a lot of worse things in the world!

Kumari wrote:

Nat07B wrote:

COme on she doesn't look seductive in it. She's got hardly any make up on and bad hair. Her parents were there at the shoot and she had jeans on (not that oyu can see that) it's not like she's flaunting her entire body, she's covered. There are a lot of worse things in the world!

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Well that explains why abortion rates amongst 11-16 year olds have quadrupled in the past 4 years.
11 year old girls are still children and should dress appropriately well of course unless they have irresponsible parents there's nothing much we can do.

Yes, some may argue they have the right and free choice to have sex...yadda...yadda yadda...

PARENTS OF CHILDREN (11-16year olds) WHO ARE PREGNANT DO NOT HAVE ANY CHOICE BUT BE BOMBARDED WITH GRANDKIDS WITHOUT A CHOICE.

WHERE ARE OUR RIGHTS AS PARENTS?
DO WE HAVE A CHOICE?

To top it all up, this Myrus creature is dressing up and posing the way she is, is certainly not helping. Who could blame paedophiles if we sit and allow young children to dress this way?

Paedophiles prey on children that act like children rather than children that act like adults. They are attracted to children so the issue with teenagers dressing that way is not attracting paedophiles because their sickness would still make them attracted to anyone young.

Miley looks what she is in that picture, a 15 year old girl. There's nothing sexual in it at all. Ok so her back is showing, indicating she doesn't have a bra on. However, she IS covered. She doesn't have a sulthy come hither look about her. It looks like an artistic photograph. If you didn't know who she was, or that she was 15, the photo would no doubt be applauded.

Yes children should dress appropriately, they shoudn't be allowed to dress like mini adults, paedophiles don't tend to prey on the ones who are trying to look 'grown up' the people that prey on this type are a whole other breed. But just because a child is dressed in this manner it does not give anyone the right to do wrong by them. Just as a woman, do I deserve to be hunted down and raped because I'm wearing a short skirt to show off my legs, when in fact, I actually just like the skirt? No.

There are good role models and bad role models, but essentially, it is up to the parents to protect, provide and care.

Am I missing something here?

I look up to famouse people that a both talented and respectful my faverouite are, Nicole Kidman and Marcia Cross. ever seen them in tiny skirts and there bare chests ? Nope

Wht I am fed up with is breasts! I have extremely large breatse and I hate how all the colths make me lokk either obese or slutty! Its not jsut me me i have plenty of friends who have the smae problem. When will some clver designer desgin flattering and respecful clothes for busty woman / teens? I have even considered surgery to reduce them due to the unwanted attenion but then I ask myself should I chage the way I qas bron to be for the sake of others?

anyWAY i TOTALLY AGREE with the bad role models x x

mm britney spears isnt a role model but i no sum young girls lk up 2 paris hilton, i did 4 a little bit wen i was younger ha, its just that shes seen with no problems, boys like her, shes pritty and amazingly rich and famous for doing nothing, a lot of girls want that.